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Willow continued the interview, by describing how the fame she encountered at such a young age, drove her to self harm. From People:

But by her early teens, Willow began engaging in self-harm. Cutting, she says now, provided “a physical release of all the intangible pain that’s happening in your heart and in your mind.”

Willow says that she after reading about science and spirituality, she decided to stop cutting herself:

“I was like, ‘This is pointless — my body is a temple,’ and I completely stopped. It seemed literally psychotic after a certain point because I had learned to see myself as worthy.”

And as for Jada? She had no idea what was happening with Willow at all:

Jada didn’t know about the cutting until Willow talked about it on Red Table Talk. She says she was “shocked” but “so proud of her in that moment.”

Jada also added, in their People interview , “If you can survive the experience, then you have to come out with wisdom.” Wise words from a woman who knows of what she speaks. As she shows each week with her mother and daughter, Jada’s willing to always be open and honest about her experiences.

Check out the Red Table Talk ladies discussing their family bond and influence below.